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		<title>An Epiphany</title>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excuse the preponderance of &#8220;I&#8221;s in this post, but it is my experience being shared.  I trust you will find some hope, help and motivation tucked somewhere into it, however, to make some part of it your own!</p>
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<p>I don&#8217;t know about most people, but one of the things that has occupied a lot of  my lifetime is wondering/thinking about &#8220;Why am I here?&#8221; or &#8220;What is my purpose in life?&#8221;</p>
<p>There is this suspicion that this question occupies a lot of time and attention in others as well, for it rather occupies the literature in the Self-Help or Personal Development genre and in the Religious genre.</p>
<p>If you have followed this blog or any of my other offerings (<a href="http://www.goodheartgroupinc.com/health" target="_blank">Your Growth Matters</a>, for example) this has been a recurrent theme.  The references are frequent to the idea of  &#8221;returning to the Garden&#8221;  and &#8220;living naked and unashamed&#8221; (both, obviously, blatant references to the Biblical story of Paradise).</p>
<p>I realized this morning, more than ever, however, that this concept is not just theory and not just about &#8220;naked&#8221; or open and vulnerable.</p>
<p>As I looked back, I realized that my entire life has pointed to this concept, even from early on.  It began, as does most things, with physical expression and experience, the means of bringing ideas into our consciousness.  That is what experience does for us.  (Before we grow to the point of understanding that we orchestrate our physical existence by our thoughts and desires, we exist primarily at a physical consciousness, unaware that some greater and grander Desire is directing, pointing, leading us.)</p>
<p>There was the skinnydipping experience with my brothers and a friend as a child which made this huge impact.  Decades later there was an interest from somewhere prompting request of literature from the American Association for Nude Recreation (AANR) &#8211; but then, what to do with or about it??</p>
<p>A decade or more later was the challenge from someone close to me to consider nudity as a lifestyle.</p>
<p>Only a few years after that (note how the cycle accelerates) and not so long ago was the first social nudity experience at the amazing <a href="http://www.livingwatersspa.com" target="_blank">Living Waters Spa</a>.  A transformational, rebirthing experience!</p>
<p>From that point, the whole idea of &#8220;living naked and unashamed&#8221; has grown, developed, and flourished &#8211; but way beyond the idea of just lifestyle or recreation.  Rather, it has become a look into the Heart of Father, a call to return to Health, a path to find Healing, a place of Intimacy with the Creator, that for which the Soul longs and for which it is made.</p>
<p>It has grown way beyond physical nakedness.  It includes openness and vulnerability to ones self, to others, to community, to Father.  It demands total rethinking and &#8220;nonthinking&#8221; but rather following the deep heart as it connects to Father.  It is the place of which Yeshua spoke often when he pointed to Nature (birds, flowers, grass, wheat) and spoke of losing all to gain everything, of caring not for the physical but knowing surely that Father would care for all of that.</p>
<p>Of all this I have spoken or written much.  However, this morning I realized that in all my speaking it has been of taking off.  This makes sense, since to become naked in this world one must usually remove some article of clothing.  To be emotionally open, one must take down or remove the barriers, the walls, the defense mechanisms quickly erected and frequently reinforced.  My memory of my first experience in a socially nude environment is more about getting over the fear and embarrassment  of disrobing about feeling condemned by others in my life who would think me wicked.</p>
<p>But this was the epiphany today:</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">Living naked and unashamed, while having to break through the barrier of fear initially, is not about getting past fear and shame and embarrassment and condemnation.  It is not about becoming open and vulnerable so that you and others can see your true self.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">Rather, it is about becoming true in order to <strong>RECEIVE</strong>, to be able to<strong> FEEL</strong>.</p>
<p>This is really the message Yeshua was trying to get across; this is the message we say daily just by watching the birds.</p>
<p>They live &#8220;nakedly&#8221; in every way.  They have only their physical &#8220;hair&#8221;, they have no means of supporting themselves, they have no education and they have no government to provide welfare assistance.  They merely go about doing what is in their heart and life to do as they stay connected to their Creator.</p>
<p>Imagine one of them sitting on a branch one day and deciding it was time to go it on his own.  He would have to instantly figure out how to grow corn or how to navigate to the nearest seed-producing plant or tree.  He  would have to take lessons on nest-building, beginning with materials science and going on to construction techniques.  He would have to learn how to choose a mate then take seminars on how to maintain satisfactory relationships and finally he would theologize it all, codify it, and start a church to keep it all in order and approved.</p>
<p>Bottom line &#8211; he would die!  Exactly what Father told us would happen to us the minute we decided to take that step of doing it on our own!</p>
<p>So here&#8217;s the deal: &#8220;living naked and unashamed&#8221; is about receiving from Father what He so eagerly is offering and waiting for us to RECEIVE.  It is about being just ME/US with no need to do anything on our own, no need to figure anything out, no need to spiritualize or organize anything.</p>
<p>Just connect.  Just be open.  Just receive.  Just go fly to the seed when you are shown where it is (don&#8217;t just stay sitting on the branch &#8211; that will cause death, too).  Just pick up the grass or twig and put it together with the previous one when it is in your heart, from Father, to do so and soon the nest will be there.  Just reach out and help the neighbor, whoever it is and whatever they need, when the message comes to your heart to do so.  Lose the barriers, lose the fear, lose the &#8220;clothes&#8221; and, yes, the clothes when the message comes to your heart to do so.</p>
<p>Imagine a world where the economy is one of credits for having helped each other, for having shared from our heart words of encouragement, instead of credits for how many goods we can accumulate!</p>
<p>Paradise awaits, if we but RECEIVE it!</p>
<p>Blessings,</p>
<p>Dr Jon</p>
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		<title>Conversations About Life, XVIII</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Nov 2011 13:00:22 +0000</pubDate>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">Some time later, after our <a href="http://goodheartgroupinc.com/blog/renegade-life/conversations-about-life-xvii" target="_blank">last conversation</a>, P. sent this:</span></h2>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">Jon, </span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 60px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">The Lord keeps giving me Words for you.</span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 60px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">It is a joy to be obedient!</span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 60px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">Remember when you said you were resistant to being paid as a Dr.?</span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 60px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">Well, I read this this morning and you came to mind right away.</span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 60px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">September 19th,  <em>Each New Day</em> by Corrie ten Boom:</span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 90px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">&#8220;A hospital visitor saw a nurse tending to the sores of a leprosy patient.</span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 90px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">&#8216;I would not do that for a million dollars,&#8217; he said.</span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 90px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">The nurse answered, &#8216;Neither would I.  But I do it for Jesus for nothing.&#8217;</span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 90px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">&#8216;As you did it to one of the least of these my brethren, you did it to me..&#8217;  Matthew 25:40 RSV. </span></p>
<h2><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">So to that I had to open up and answered with this:</span></h2>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">P,</span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">You continue to be amazing. Thank you.</span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">And I&#8217;ll get really naked with you.</span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">This was always my attitude about medicine. It wasn&#8217;t about me; it was about doing what I heard Father tell me to do.</span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">My heart was to go be a professor of quantum mechanics/chemistry. I loved it. In fact, it was the only thing that up to 19 years of age when I graduated from college that had even remotely attracted my interest. I <strong>loved</strong> the research, the math, the thinking way outside the box, the inherent philosophy. (In fact, that still sounds like me today!)</span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">So I was blindsided when I had the car wreck and I saw and heard Father very clearly direct me toward medicine. I had NO desire, no interest, didn&#8217;t like doctors, didn&#8217;t like anatomy/physiology/biochemistry that much. I didn&#8217;t like people! especially people who were hurting and couldn&#8217;t think for themselves and depended on others to tell them what to do. (Come to think of it, it sounds like me today!)</span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">But Father said go, so I went.</span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">And I HATED it. Got depressed, wasn&#8217;t good at it, felt like a fish out of water.</span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">So when I got into practice I got back into research, of sorts, and used the patients as a sort of lab though stayed within bounds of not doing anything that would hurt. Just tried to apply what others had learned but no one was doing in the form of natural, helpful, non-harmful remedies (the essence of the Hippocratic oath which we all took and which I WRONGLY thought was the creed of the profession).</span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">In that context I began to enjoy medicine, began to love people and especially began to love seeing them actually improve and not just have symptom relief.</span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">So how could I charge for something that was being done more for Father than for anyone else, for my own learning and growing more than for the patient&#8217;s? I couldn&#8217;t. I assumed/believed that Father would take care of the salary and the needs/income.</span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">Here&#8217;s where I get even more naked, if that is possible.</span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">He didn&#8217;t.</span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">At least it seemed like He didn&#8217;t. Or I could never get to the place where I could let go enough to let Him. There was always a struggle to get by. When the State Board came after me and I heard Him specifically say to &#8220;leave medicine&#8221;, we entered a period of poverty, doubt, failure, suicidal tendencies and deep depression, mostly around self-worth and money. I blame a lot of this for why my children make the choices they do.</span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">The question I have never been able to answer is, where is the funding coming from? The nurse in the story is doing it for &#8220;nothing&#8221; for Jesus but someone is paying the bill. Who? Mission boards exist, truly, only to funnel money after raising it, begging for it or guilting people for it. That&#8217;s not trusting Father and I couldn&#8217;t do it. </span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">When I was a regular doc we billed and insurance companies paid &#8211; sort of. I couldn&#8217;t play that game after a while, either. </span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">I know in my heart that Abundance is supposed to come but I could never see it, receive it, experience it. All I could ever do was try to go as far as I could with as little as I could and when that ran out solve my own problem with credit. I used to believe that credit was wrong so didn&#8217;t do that until the preacher at [our church] one day said poor people would have to live on credit. So for some reason I believed him and now we are in credit jail, slowly working our way out but in a very deep hole and on the grindstone just to stay even. Still, there is not &#8220;Abundance&#8221; and still there is not the belief that Father would really pay for me to do what is in my heart to do.</span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">I have recently realized that I failed to listen to Father as to what the next step was to be after I left medicine. I still don&#8217;t know what that should have been. </span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">I know now that there were/are deep seated issues, brought out by all this, of lack of self-worth, lack of true identity and lack of masculinity in the energetic sense of being able to stand up and take my rightful place in society and in the home. </span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">I&#8217;m thankful for these lessons learned and am working on them, but it seems so deep-seated that I wonder if there will ever be any real change in me &#8211; though I believe it can and will happen for anyone else.</span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">My message is one of healing for heart, soul and body and my own heart&#8217;s desire is to begin by traveling, touching and teaching people.<br />
</span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">Requirements seem to be a simple RV so not to be burdensome on those whom I would touch and teach and so costs could be kept at a minimum. Do I believe that will happen? Not really. Have to get out of debt first and that looks like it will take 4-5 years at least. </span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">Father led us to this house and it has always been too expensive and a drain and was never used for family, the reason we looked for two years before we found it. There are some issues there, obviously. Since we bought it the market plummeted and now we are upside down in it by about $40K so selling it is not a good move either.</span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">In the summer or when we are not traveling I want/desire/am supposed to be running a nude healing center where hurting, abused people can come and shed their griefs, pain, trauma, depressions and even clothes and experience healing, freedom and Eden once again. </span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">Part of the healing message is this: The whole planet needs to make the shift away from the bondage of sex and aberrant ideas about bodies and sexuality and begin to honor, respect and appreciate bodies and sexuality in appropriate, healthy, non-sexual ways.</span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">But &#8220;get real, Jon&#8221; &#8211; can you imagine the cost, the legal issues, the societal ideas that have to be overcome? Do I ever think that will happen? No. And yet this is what Father has put on my heart.</span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">And I still don&#8217;t believe even He can pull it off.</span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">So I&#8217;m a frustrated &#8220;believer&#8221; willing to step outside the box and follow into uncharted waters who really has no faith. I&#8217;m a philosopher full of theories and only minimal experience personally with no real evidence of &#8220;reality&#8221;. I&#8217;m a thinker and not a doer. And the whole issue of money and provision still sits at the center, unresolved, unsolved, a huge stumbling stone to everything else.</span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">Now you&#8217;ve seen my naked soul. By the way, after this seeing my naked body would not even be a flash in the pan!</span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">All that is probably way more than you ever wanted to hear, but keep the good words coming. I love it that Father is using you as the mouthpiece and that you are willing to speak.</span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">Like Mary, you are a Blessed One!</span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">Jon</span></p>
<h2><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">We&#8217;ve touched on some basic issues here &#8211; desire, disappointment, money, faith or lack thereof &#8211; and have gotten open and real, &#8220;naked&#8221;. How about you? Where are you on some of these issues? Where do you need healing? </span></h2>
<p><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">Blessings,</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">Dr Jon<br />
Renegade Doc</span></p>
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		<title>Change Our Perspective, Change Our Lives</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Sep 2011 01:54:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Taking ourselves out of our center of focus and seeing Father connecting to us for the advancement of His purpose will totally change how we think about life.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have you ever wished that Father (God, Creator, Source, the One &#8211; whatever you call Him) would come to you in a very personal, very real way and say or do something that would make your life take on new and specific meaning?  Or answer all your questions?  Or just make you feel special and really alive?</p>
<p>I do &#8211; often.  If not all the time.</p>
<p>By the way, I prefer to call Him &#8220;Father&#8221; or &#8220;Daddy&#8221; (Abba in Hebrew) just because it is way more personal and intimate.</p>
<p>As these thoughts were rolling around in my mind recently a new realization showed up.</p>
<p>Maybe it is different for you, but every time I start thinking this way it is always about how this kind of connection or visitation could do something for ME.</p>
<p>What if we turned that around and started to wonder or realize that every time Father makes the personal connection it is really about HIM, about how He can advance His purposes on the planet, about He can make His care and love for us more obvious.</p>
<p>I grew up hearing and reading the Bible stories about Adam, Abraham, Jacob, Joseph, Joshua, Gideon, David, the prophets like Isaiah and Jeremiah, John the Baptizer, Peter, Paul, and, of course, Yeshua. Each of these, and many others, had one or more personal, intimate experiences with Father. In each of their lives these encounters had a significant impact for them personally, changed the course of their lives, made them feel in some way special.</p>
<p>With each of these stories I was taught, or at least learned, that these encounters were about changing the men, bringing them something they needed.</p>
<p>Now, however, I submit that each of these encounters were even more intended to bring something Father needed to manifest Himself to everyone else. Each of these encounters, while revealing Father as a personal Creator, more importantly advanced Father&#8217;s plan and purpose for showing the rest of the planet what He was all about.</p>
<p>We want to think divine encounters are about and for the men. I suggest they are really about Father, His heart, His love, and His message.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a practical example from my own life if you will bear with me for a bit:</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">In 1972 I was serving in the US Navy, looking forward to getting out and using the GI Benefits being earned to go to graduate school and study Quantum Chemistry.  This was my passion, to do research and teach while exploring the grand mysteries of the universe and life as we know it.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">One weekend, however, while on leave with my Dad, a motor vehicle accident put me in the hospital.  Surgery was required to take my spleen to save my life. I awoke from that experience with the VERY REAL sensation of Father/Yeshua actually HOLDING my right hand.  It was as real as my breathing, or pain!</p>
<p>As I have thought about this experience, this visitation, I have always had good thoughts, been thankful for the support it brought, the sense of care and concern, and the knowing that everything would be OK with me.</p>
<p>These are wonderful thoughts and feelings; thank God we can have them.</p>
<p>However, that &#8220;accident&#8221; COMPLETELY changed the course of my life.  Instead of becoming a theoretical professor, my lengthy stay in the Naval Hospital opened my eyes to medicine and I eventually became a physician.  From there I took a less traveled path and became the &#8220;Renegade Doc&#8221;, exploring the more helpful benefits of &#8220;alternative&#8221; and &#8220;natural&#8221; modalities and especially touch and the deeper and more powerful &#8220;mind-body connection&#8221;.</p>
<p>With all that said, here&#8217;s my point:</p>
<p>I have always thought the hand holding was to encourage me (a nice side effect).</p>
<p>Now I realize Father came and took my hand as an invitation to follow HIM into a new path that would advance the knowledge of Him on the planet, would offer people a look into His heart through the skills, ideas and person He was inviting me to become.</p>
<p>He was not just trying to comfort me. He was opening the way for a deeper revelation of Himself to all of us.</p>
<p>Can you see the difference in this change of perspective?</p>
<p>Can you see what a grand and glorious thing it is to be part of His dream and purpose in specific ways?</p>
<p>Can you see what a difference it would make in our lives to think this way about Him &#8211; and about ourselves?</p>
<p>Instead of being so egocentric, of being so upset and disappointed when things don&#8217;t go as we think or planned, we could begin to see ourselves as an active participant in Father&#8217;s Master Plan.</p>
<p>With that perspective nothing could really discourage, depress or defeat us. What a great place in which to be and live!</p>
<p>Blessings,</p>
<p>Dr Jon<br />
Renegade Doc</p>
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		<title>Conversations About Life, XVII</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jul 2011 20:56:22 +0000</pubDate>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">After the <a href="http://goodheartgroupinc.com/blog/renegade-life/conversations-about-life-xvi" target="_blank">last conversation</a> P. came back with:</span></h2>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">Dr. Jon of the Heart, </span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">For sure, that is totally cool!  </span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">I do consider myself one of the &#8220;unlearned&#8221;, but I know for sure that I have been with Jesus.  </span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">By the way, I have been inspired by our dialogues in many ways.  </span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">I bypassed all the trendy books in my time such as &#8220;<a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000FWHU4M/ref=as_li_qf_sp_asin_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=httpwwwgoodhe-20&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;camp=217145&amp;creative=399373&amp;creativeASIN=B000FWHU4M" target="_blank">Prayer of Jabez</a>&#8220;, &#8220;<a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0310334195/ref=as_li_qf_sp_asin_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=httpwwwgoodhe-20&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;camp=217145&amp;creative=399373&amp;creativeASIN=0310334195" target="_blank">Purpose Driven Life</a>&#8220;,  &#8220;<a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1400200393/ref=as_li_qf_sp_asin_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=httpwwwgoodhe-20&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;camp=217145&amp;creative=399373&amp;creativeASIN=1400200393" target="_blank">Wild at Hear</a>t&#8221; etc&#8230;.. but I did here recently pick up (by chance- HA!)  <em><a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0058M53ZM/ref=as_li_qf_sp_asin_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=httpwwwgoodhe-20&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;camp=217145&amp;creative=399373&amp;creativeASIN=B0058M53ZM" target="_blank">Walking with God</a></em> by <a href="http://www.ransomedheart.com" target="_blank">John Eldridge</a>.  </span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">First I looked at the back and read about the author.  I don&#8217;t know if you knew or remembered I have two brothers who live in Colorado that are very, outdoorsy (expert skiers, fly fishing, boating etc&#8230;) and I was taken in instantly.  </span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">As you can imagine I can&#8217;t put the book down!!  </span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">Wow!  </span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">Love, </span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">P.</span></p>
<h3 style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">To that I in turn came back with:</h3>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">I read &#8220;Prayer of Jabez&#8221; but never got &#8220;into&#8221; it and totally ignored, and continue to ignore, &#8220;Purpose Driven Life&#8221;.</span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-size: 16px; font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif;">Eldredge&#8217;s &#8220;<a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0785273425/ref=as_li_qf_sp_asin_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=httpwwwgoodhe-20&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;camp=217145&amp;creative=399373&amp;creativeASIN=0785273425" target="_blank">The Sacred Romance</a>&#8221; (with Brent Curtis), however, caught my attention since it was so much like Sonship teaching we were getting at NCF (New City Fellowship) at the time.</span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-size: 16px; font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif;">From there, however, &#8220;Wild at Heart&#8221; transformed and saved my life. I was in the lottery and able to attend the first Men&#8217;s Boot Camp which was a major breakthrough with Father for me. Since then I have appreciated and benefited from his other works, especially his concepts expressed in &#8220;Walking With God&#8221;. I grew to really like &#8220;<a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000GYI1J2/ref=as_li_qf_sp_asin_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=httpwwwgoodhe-20&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;camp=217145&amp;creative=399373&amp;creativeASIN=B000GYI1J2" target="_blank">Journey of Desire</a>&#8221; as well. I think he is a bit stuck in some places now but he is at the top of my &#8220;Fan of&#8221; list.</span></p>
<h3><span style="font-size: 16px; font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif;">In summary, readers, here is a great reading list: </span></h3>
<h3 style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-size: 16px; font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif;"><a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000GYI1J2/ref=as_li_qf_sp_asin_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=httpwwwgoodhe-20&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;camp=217145&amp;creative=399373&amp;creativeASIN=B000GYI1J2" target="_blank">The Sacred Romance<br />
Journey of Desire</a>, now just called <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0785288422/ref=as_li_qf_sp_asin_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=httpwwwgoodhe-20&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;camp=217145&amp;creative=399369&amp;creativeASIN=0785288422" target="_blank">Desire</a>,<br />
<a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1400200393/ref=as_li_qf_sp_asin_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=httpwwwgoodhe-20&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;camp=217145&amp;creative=399373&amp;creativeASIN=1400200393" target="_blank">Wild at Heart</a><br />
<a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0058M53ZM/ref=as_li_qf_sp_asin_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=httpwwwgoodhe-20&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;camp=217145&amp;creative=399373&amp;creativeASIN=B0058M53ZM" target="_blank">Walking with God</a></span></h3>
<h3 style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-size: 16px; font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif;">and for the ladies, in the same theme of finding your heart,</span></h3>
<h3 style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-size: 16px; font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif;"><a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1400200385/ref=as_li_qf_sp_asin_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=httpwwwgoodhe-20&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;camp=217145&amp;creative=399373&amp;creativeASIN=1400200385" target="_blank">Captivating</a>.</span></h3>
<h3><span style="font-size: 16px; font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif;">You can&#8217;t go wrong with any of these!  They all come with study guides as well.</span></h3>
<p><span style="font-size: 16px; font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif;">Blessings,</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 16px; font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif;">Dr Jon<br />
Renegade Doc<br />
Doctor of the Heart</span></p>
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		<title>Conversations About Life, XVI</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 22 May 2011 22:51:45 +0000</pubDate>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">In response to our <a href="http://goodheartgroupinc.com/blog/renegade-life/conversations-about-life-xv" target="_blank">last conversation</a> P. responded with:</span></h2>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">Jon, that last part really hit me!!! </span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">I have been exposed, here lately, to a bunch of Calvinists and it really weirded me out.  They were so strong in their beliefs of predestination that they did not even want to dialogue. </span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">I have ON PURPOSE stayed away from them, trying to figure that one out or where I stand but I totally lean more on free choice for sure! </span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">I did not know there were others out there that thought as I did!!! </span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">I would go for days trying to grasp what they were saying and it totally deflated me and took the wonder and excitement out of knowing the God of the Universe. </span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">I am so glad that we are not required to figure God out and His ways.  He said His  thoughts are not my thoughts.  That is pretty clear! </span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">Also, He desires no one to perish but obviously there is a hell and most will go there.  That to me indicates there is free will involved for sure!!!! </span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">What about Adam and Eve? </span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">But they {<em>the Calvinists</em>} are so driven in their views that it ruined some of my relationships.  Weird. </span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">Love,<br />
P.</span></p>
<h2><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">After thinking about that one, I came back with:</span></h2>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> </span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">In response to your Calvinist folk, and church in general:<br />
</span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">We can and need to &#8220;love&#8221; people regardless but not have to put up with their &#8220;stuff&#8221; regardless what that may look like.<br />
</span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">It takes wisdom and listening to Father about whom to relate to and how.<br />
</span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">Yeshua certainly didn&#8217;t go out of his way to hang with those who were opposed to him even though they were the &#8220;church&#8221; of the day.<br />
</span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">He spoke to them and from a place of power, maturity, grace and true love challenged &#8211; even mocked &#8211; them, but was never coerced into playing their games in the name of &#8220;unity&#8221;.</span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">Love,<br />
Jon </span></p>
<p><strong><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">We often think &#8220;agree&#8221; means &#8220;unity&#8221; but that is not so.  Love and respect and appreciation for each other allows for lots of disagreement, letting each other be who we are.  Diversity of thought and culture allows for growth unattainable when we all think the same thoughts.</span></strong></p>
<p><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">Blessings,</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">Dr Jon<br />
Renegade Doc </span></p>
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		<title>Conversations About Life, XV</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Apr 2011 23:23:36 +0000</pubDate>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">After pondering our <a href="http://goodheartgroupinc.com/blog/renegade-life/conversations-about-life-xiv" target="_blank">last conversation</a> P. continued the dialogue:</span></h2>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">Jon!  I could not resist!  After reading your response I read this {<a href="http://ls.egen.net/MessageView.aspx?sid=168271479&amp;cid=167773664&amp;textonly=0" target="_blank">P sent another article</a>}.  It goes well with your thinking. </span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">My next question to you, and Susan, is what happened at {<em>the church we were formerly in</em>}? </span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> Susan indicated at one point some kind of hurt? </span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">I still have those tapes you sent me on Sonship.  I still listen to them from time to time.  Very good on being accepted by grace and not by works! </span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">Love,</span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">P</span><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">!</span></p>
<h2><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">This prompted my reply:</span></h2>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">P,</span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">I think I see a trend here &#8211; a Ravi disciple??  <img src="http://mail.yimg.com/a/i/mesg/tsmileys2/01.gif" alt="" /></span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">I read these types of things {<a href="http://www.rzim.org/sitesearch/results.aspx?xsq=love+one+another" target="_blank">the article sent</a>} and my brain knows there is &#8220;good&#8221; stuff in there, but it all seems and feels really cold and logical and brainy, leaving me quite disinterested.</span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">I rarely find/feel/hear the &#8220;Christian&#8221; world talking, writing, being very personal and real and feeling.</span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">What I think we miss is that though Yeshua did all those things talked about, He brought a Presence, a Realness, a Life, that <strong>TOUCHED</strong> people at their deepest heart, bypassing their head and talk and theology.</span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">It is the Life we miss, I crave and for which I search.</span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">Anything else is a waste of time.</span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">And to say that by &#8220;hanging out with Christians&#8221; (church) we are in some way being scriptural and &#8220;righteous&#8221; is a total misunderstanding of the whole concept.</span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">Without the Life also being present, hanging out is no better than an hour or two at the local bar. Actually, the bar would probably be better &#8211; more real, less religious, less self-righteous and less arrogant.</span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">Which brings us to {the church we were in}.</span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">I don&#8217;t think there was really a hurt.</span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">True, when they were done with me/us they threw us under the bus pretty quickly, but I was ready to leave also.</span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">I had hoped they would let us taper away financially while building the massage practice, but that didn&#8217;t happen.</span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">Consequently I went to the lawn service to keep the income flowing and that diluted the practice building.</span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">As clients of the lawn service {the church} also cut our legs out by cancelling their contract, a big hit to us. Then they were asking a lot to park equipment on the parking lot. Neither did they let us live on the property in a situation that would have been ideal for all concerned.</span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">So there was a lot of &#8220;stupidity&#8221; going on, but not malice, I think. I was also making some bad decisions re the business in my own stupidity so it all combined for an unfortunate situation for us, financially.</span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">Nonetheless, I never felt hurt as much as recognizing that in general they didn&#8217;t know how to care for people. We weren&#8217;t the only ones thrown away.</span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">More importantly, about the same time I was getting into <a href="http://www.ransomedheart.com/" target="_blank">John Eldredge</a> and more recently <a href="http://www.lifestream.org/" target="_blank">Wayne Jacobsen</a> and learning about Love and being Loved, about Realness and Life.</span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">It has become an issue of realizing that &#8220;church&#8221; is not real. Sonship teaching was great; grace is wonderful, but without Loving people it is just more worthless theology. </span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">I had to remove myself from the morass, the Lifelessness, the dead theology because it pulled me away from Father. </span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">I would go immediately into a &#8220;play the game&#8221; mode which I was so good at doing for so many years. </span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">I had to get away and find time to get real myself. </span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">Someday I may go back, as the &#8220;missionary&#8221;, when I can bring some Life and hence a solution, but not when I am part of the problem.</span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">Meanwhile, I have realized that church theology in general and Presbyterian theology in particular, (that church is Presbyterian) is not at all what Father is telling us. </span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">His plan is Free Choice not Reformed or Predestined; Freedom in Righteousness not the Depravity of man. I really don&#8217;t fit there anymore. </span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">I still get with some of the folk there from time to time and stay friends. </span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">Always it is a search, an openness, a prayer for others who want to get real, get naked, come alive.</span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">Hope this helps,</span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">Jon</span></p>
<p span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">So there you have some comments about church and church relationships; not always very pretty, but lots of room to grow and be gracious.  Mostly it presents the chance to hold out for real Life and not just settle for routine.</p>
<p span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">Blessings,</p>
<p span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">Dr Jon<br />
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		<title>Conversations About Life, XIV</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Apr 2011 00:25:11 +0000</pubDate>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">After recovering from our <a href="http://goodheartgroupinc.com/blog/renegade-life/conversations-about-life-xiii" target="_blank">last conversation</a> P. sent this note:</span></h2>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">Jon! </span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">I love what you wrote.  It is good to process these things! </span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">I hope you find this article inspiring like I did!  {<em>P. sent me an article from Ravi Zacharias International Ministries entitled &#8220;<a href="http://www.rzim.org/resources/read/asliceofinfinity/todaysslice.aspx?aid=10681" target="_blank">Blessing the Discontent</a>&#8220;.</em>}</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">I still think you are a GREAT Dr. Jon of the heart! </span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">And I think you are and always will be a Dr. in my eyes.  You were just way ahead of your time! </span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">Love, P</span></p>
<h2><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">To which I replied:</span></h2>
<p><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> </span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">You are good for me! Love your encouragement.</span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">Re doctor, I am still the best doctor I know, only I am the doctor of the Heart &#8211; I am realizing that now.</span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">I long, crave, only want to get into people&#8217;s deepest core and help them discover what really makes them tick and what really is keeping them from being who they are supposed to be.</span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">It seems that most don&#8217;t want to get that intense, that exposed, that naked with themselves and with me; that real.</span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">We prefer to live in a fantasy world of our own making, a belief that everything is really fine but just needs a little work on the outside to fix the anxiety, the cancer, the diabetes, the whatever.</span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">Wrong!!!</span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">Re the piece you forwarded, thanks for that. I appreciate it.</span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">However, my discontent will only be satisfied when Father and I are so connected that like Yeshua I will know Him so intimately that</span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 60px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">- that is all there is to life,</span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 60px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">- that my soul is only and completely occupied with His Life and Love,</span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 60px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">- that my only source/reason for breath and breathing is to feel and experience His constant presence and Life and LOVE.</span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">By The Way, I don&#8217;t think Father strips us raw and naked; He only loves us.</span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">However, he is more than anxious for us to be willing to get naked before Him and be that real and honest that I mentioned earlier.</span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">It is at that level of intimacy for which He is waiting for us to be.</span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">It is at that level of intimacy with each other for which he is waiting for us be as well.</span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">Bless you!</span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">Jon</span></p>
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<h3><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">And you, are you ready to be that close to Father, be that intimate with Him, yourself, and others?</span>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">Imagine what life would be like if we were!</span></h3>
<p><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">Blessings,</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">Dr Jon</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">Renegade Doc</span></p>
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		<title>Conversations About Life, XIII</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Mar 2011 03:39:23 +0000</pubDate>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">After that <a href="http://goodheartgroupinc.com/blog/renegade-life/conversations-about-life-xii" target="_blank">last conversation</a> some time passed before we communicated once again.  It was time in which P. did some pondering and thinking and then came back to me with several questions.</span></h2>
<h3><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">This time I responded by answering the questions one at a time so will format this post the same way.  Makes it more like a real conversation, as well.  Again we hit some pretty personal topics, this time more about me, and I felt free to get pretty &#8220;naked&#8221; with my answers.</span></h3>
<h3><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">P. began with:</span></h3>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">I was swimming laps today and thinking about what you said in one of our many dialogues. </span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">What did you mean when you said you did not think you could make money being a Dr.?!</span></p>
<h3><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">I replied:</span></h3>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">My reason for becoming a doc was to &#8220;help&#8221; people and I couldn&#8217;t do the &#8220;asking people for money&#8221; thing.</span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">Now I realize it was a lot about self-worth (or the lack thereof) as well.</span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">It was also about choice.</span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">I&#8217;m not sure I really CHOSE medicine; it was not my true passion. I was trying to fix things for people I loved.</span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">I have often said I should have been a professor. The medical office became a sort of laboratory.</span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">It was also about being different.</span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">I followed my Dad&#8217;s thoughts in general and could easily see the problems and issues in the &#8220;system&#8221;, whatever system that was.</span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">For me, it became the medical system.</span></p>
<h3 style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">Another comment P had was:</h3>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">Another thought crossed my mind.  Just like me, the choice was taken from you to be a Dr. when you were falsely accused and your licence taken away.</span></p>
<h3 style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">To which I responded:</h3>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">The choice wasn&#8217;t really taken from me; I gave it up.<br />
</span><br />
<span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">The State Board didn&#8217;t take my license, but put it on probation. I had to do 1000 hours of continuing education which I couldn&#8217;t afford and would be things I didn&#8217;t want to learn about (wouldn&#8217;t have been alternative).<br />
</span><br />
<span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">They said they would let me do alternative medicine but I would have to clear procedures with them first. I knew they were playing with me and couldn&#8217;t tolerate the restrictions.<br />
</span><br />
<span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">There were lots of other things going on too:<br />
</span><br />
<span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">Money, </span><br />
<span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">Trying to homeschool, </span><br />
<span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">Susan pregnant with David, </span><br />
<span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">Not able to replace Susan in the office, </span><br />
<span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">Lack of focus trying to be a doc and a farmer at the same time, </span><br />
<span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">Isolated professionally, </span><br />
<span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">Feeling inadequate and untrained to do the kind of medicine I was charging people for, </span><br />
<span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">Outside the system and not comfortable.<br />
</span><br />
<span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">Depressed, even? </span><br />
<span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">It was easier to walk away. </span><br />
<span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"><br />
Actually, I &#8220;heard&#8221; Father say to leave medicine so I did. </span><br />
<span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"><br />
Now I think I forgot to ask him what to do next and just went into a deep depression because I didn&#8217;t know what to do.</span></p>
<h3 style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">P&#8217;s next questions:</h3>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">The choice was taken from me to continue to homeschool and nurse Juliana. </span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 60px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">Do you think that makes a difference in how it is processed?! </span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 60px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">Do you think the Lord(Father) strips us of all things, raw, naked , to teach us to depend totally on Him and not the things we do or want to do? </span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> Just wondering what your thoughts are!</span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: small;">Love,</span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: small;">P.</span></p>
<h3 style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">My response:</h3>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"><br />
Here&#8217;s what I think:</span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 60px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">Forget everything you have been taught and come to believe in from &#8220;church&#8221;. </span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 60px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">That is mostly, if not completely, doctrine perpetrated to keep us away from the truth.</span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 60px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">Father put us on the planet for one reason: <strong>to make the CHOICE to be in relationship with him. </strong></span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 60px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"><strong></strong>We are actually a part of him and not separate beings, like a cell is part of the bigger body. We have individual characteristics and functions but are needed to make the whole complete and healthy. </span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 60px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">If we act on our own we become a cancer, an illness, a dis-ease of Father. </span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 60px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">This I believe is what Yeshua was talking about in analogy when he discussed the vine and the branches and pruning. </span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 60px;"><strong><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">He came directly from Father, as Father himself, to show us what total CHOICE toward Father looked like. </span></strong></p>
<p style="padding-left: 60px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">This is what he meant when he talked about not being able to do anything that he didn&#8217;t see Father doing first. </span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 60px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">He came to restore the choice, to live in love, that was lost when Adam choose to be self-sufficient.</span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 60px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">The Garden of Eden was set up with humans in a high state of vibration, in Father&#8217;s image/likeness, able to co-create with Father. </span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 60px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">In this place Father set up a choice and we were given the FREEDOM to choose. </span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 60px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">When we chose to be self-sufficient Father then placed us in a &#8220;matrix&#8221;, a program, that was dumbed down, put at a low vibration. </span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 60px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">This low vibration includes death and dis-ease and disappointment to teach us to choose once again to live at a high vibrational level, to elevate back to the level of Yeshua, living in love and not in fear.</span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 60px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">I think <strong>we choose everything</strong> though we may not always be aware of it consciously. </span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 60px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">I think our &#8220;Higher Self&#8221;, that part of us which still stays in some communication with Father, will bring things into our path about which we need to choose in an attempt to point us to the higher road.</span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 60px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> For me that meant choosing to be a doctor even though it wasn&#8217;t my passion. <strong>Because teaching people how to get to the higher place IS my passion.</strong></span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 60px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">Becoming a doctor was a tool and when that wasn&#8217;t working out the State Board helped by making it easier to choose a better way. </span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 60px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">My brain got in the way and I got depressed and confused and it has taken me 20 years to see that, but in the meantime I did get into massage which allows me to take people to a high place. </span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 60px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">As part of the big picture of medicine and massage, along with a deep inner sense of direction, I have also begun to understand being naked at all levels including physical, emotional, spiritual, relational, financial, etc. </span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 60px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">This is a high vibrational state which includes loving self, others and Father and is a return to Eden and in the process offers deep health and healing. </span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 60px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">So I don&#8217;t think Father strips us naked and puts us in situations like that. </span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 60px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">He is not abusive. He is a good Father. </span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 60px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">However, he has placed us in a place in which we can choose to have experiences which will draw us to that intimate relationship and dependence on him which every healthy cell in any body needs to function properly. </span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 60px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">In that place we will have all the supply we need, whatever that looks like. </span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 60px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">In that place we will work with others who share the body &#8211; which is everyone &#8211; although we may not be in their little &#8220;groups&#8221; (churches, organizations, vocations, etc.). </span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 60px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">I do think when at some very deep level we choose to follow and become completely dependent on Father and stop choosing our own self-sufficiency we will find ourselves in places of testing, probably of our own making, to make sure we really mean it.</span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">Don&#8217;t know if all this makes sense. </span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">It is only starting to make a little bit of sense to me. </span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">I am still stuck in the old church thinking and still feel ostracized and unapproved for thinking differently so have a hard time being truly me. </span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">I know at some deep level, though, that upon entry to this planet my deep self chose to follow Father no matter what, and everything that has followed has been to direct me onto that path. </span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">It is hard when other choices along the way, like not charging for services in a world that depends on money, make me feel like I am stupid or crazy or both and when there is no support or understanding from family and loved ones. </span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">I believe Father will at times &#8220;hide&#8221; or speak in very low whispers which require attentive and focused ears to hear. </span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">When the program around us is yelling and screaming it is often hard to pay attention to the quiet whisper. </span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">It is also very easy to forget to love myself when church and the program is so adamant that I am not worth loving and is totally controlled by fear.</span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">I better stop; been rambling long enough.</span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">Ponder this for a while and get back.</span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">Blessings and love,</span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">Jon</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: small;">So what do YOU think?  Ponder it a while yourself and let us know.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: small;">Blessings,</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: small;">Dr Jon<br />
Renegade Doc </span></p>
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		<title>Conversations About Life, XII</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Mar 2011 22:42:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Be defined by the King of Kings, not by our culture.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">You&#8217;ve come back after the wild ride of our <a href="http://goodheartgroupinc.com/blog/renegade-life/conversations-about-life-xi" target="_blank">previous conversation</a> so maybe you are also ready for the wild ride yourself!</span></h2>
<h2><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">After the last exchange I decided to be brave and post these conversations into the blog &#8211; what you are reading now.  We had gotten into such real, raw, fundamental concepts about life the comments needed to be shared.  However, before I did that it seemed better to have P&#8217;s permission since a lot of what would be shared was her personal story as well.</span></h2>
<h3><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">She responded with an email which she titled &#8220;naked truth&#8221;:</span></h3>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">Jon, </span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> Thanks for the write up! </span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">It is a challenge to live this life, in this culture. </span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">Anything to make a point that we NOT become attached to the things of this world.  We have nothing when we come into this world so likewise as we exit. </span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">I am pondering the point of not being defined or measured by the standards of our culture but letting the Lord of Lord and King of Kings to define me. </span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">This might mean experiencing failure, heart ache and just plain wondering what is life all about. </span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">I LOVE to regress to a child&#8217;s level and be captivated by the wonder and excitement of this world and life we have been given.  That is where the hidden wisdom lies.  It does not take much to enter into His Kingdom. </span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">Love, </span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">P</span></p>
<h3><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">And my reply:</span></h3>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">P,</span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">Thanks for that. Post it as a comment on the blog if you will.</span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">Come on up and get naked with us! We&#8217;ll be like kids  playing in the sandbox, learning some real wisdom.</span></p>
<h3><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">Same for the rest of you.  Have wisdom?  Please share it.</span></h3>
<p><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">Blessings,</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">Dr Jon<br />
<span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">Renegade Doc</span></span></p>
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		<title>Conversations About Life, XI</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Feb 2011 13:00:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>renegade</dc:creator>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">Continuing on with our conversations about Life, rather than being turned off by the pretty raw comments of the <a href="http://goodheartgroupinc.com/blog/renegade-life/conversations-about-life-x-3" target="_blank">previous conversation</a>, P. responded with:</span></h2>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">Jon! </span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">That was so cool! </span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">I had &#8220;one of those&#8221; (months ago but never forgot!) dreams where I was standing in line to take a &#8220;ride&#8221; and an angel came up to me and TOOK me to another line and said this is where you belong.  YOU CAN DO THIS RIDE (much more exciting and eventful) because you spent years learning to ride a horse. </span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">I was amazed because the other ride was boring and predictable whereas, the new ride was for those who COULD ride.  I was excited and encouraged that I could really do this! </span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">The angel encouraged me and it felt right! </span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">Wow, your letter really confirmed it! </span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">&#8220;Perfect love casts out fear&#8221;. </span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">I get it. </span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">My basic problem is I&#8217;m stuck on God being a stern task master so I want to run and hide my gifts and bury them. </span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">He wants me to experience His glory and love. </span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">&#8220;For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God&#8221; that God intended man to be. </span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">The glory that man had before the fall the believer will again have through Christ. </span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">I also found scripture that brought out about having a sense of self: </span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 60px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">&#8220;I pray that out of his glorious riches he may strengthen you with power through his Spirit in your INNER BEING.&#8221;</span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">Just yesterday I was a front row, eye witness to a car accident.  Fortunately every one was pretty much OK.  But I ran fearlessly to the scene ready to help, what ever was there to find.  I had no fear at all! </span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">The Lord showed me that is how I am to approach folks that are wrecked on the inside.  Run fearlessly because I KNOW what it is to be wrecked on the inside although, I am better now, and not to be afraid of the others that are still in the middle of the wreck.</span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">On the lighter side, I remember one time on a Wednesday night at one of our hilarious group meetings when you said &#8220;if I was in a car accident I would not want someone waving garlic over me!&#8221;  We laughed and laughed!  That was a fun time , the middle of the week to just laugh while our little ones played down stairs! </span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">Love, </span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">P.</span></p>
<h3><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">To that I responded:</span></h3>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">P.,</span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">You got it!  The ride thing for sure. </span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">The Celts&#8217; name for the Holy Spirit was &#8220;The Wild Goose&#8221;. </span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">Yeshua himself likened the Spirit and being born of and following/living by the Spirit as &#8220;wind&#8221; which goes totally where it pleases without any control by anyone else. </span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">Besides the motorcycle analogy I like the kayak in white water analogy. Hang on for the ride, for fun, for real, lots of risk, lots of adrenaline, just BEING, in the moment. </span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">That is so what it is all about and SO hard to let go and do. It is so &#8220;naked&#8221; and vulnerable and &#8220;out there&#8221; and I think that is why Father put us on the planet naked (and unashamed!!!!!!) to get the message it was to be a fun, wild ride, to just be in and live.</span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">And the running into situations without fear: that is the application. You got that too! </span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">That touched a deep cord in me. Not only without fear, but also without condemnation or blame. </span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">We are ALL broken and ALL equally loved and ALL equally unique and ALL redeemable and died for.</span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">Yet we &#8220;believers&#8221;, &#8220;righteous&#8221; are so quick to cast blame and criticize and ostracize and act the Pharisee versus the sinner. Yet in doing so we are more condemned, more judged and more sinful. </span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">We just need to run in and participate and throw our shoulder to the plow along with whomever and learn to love and get &#8220;naked&#8221; and open and vulnerable and show what Father has done, truly, for us. </span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">Be real.</span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">You are a blessing!</span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">Jon</span></p>
<h3><span style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">Until next time, get on the wild ride!</span></h3>
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<p style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">Blessings,</p>
<p style="font-family: arial, geneva, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">Dr Jon</p>
<p>Renegade Doc</h3>
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